http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/ SA-SDA is a mailing list for Seventh-day Adventists around the world with a primary focus on SDA's in Southern Africa. Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:16:01 GMT Jongimpi Papu http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19313 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19313 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:29:24 GMT Nda Nxumalo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19312 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19312 Bro Pat, Shall we just say you're not getting it? ;-) I hear your angle, but your responses clearly show that we are really NOT on the same wavelength on the Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:51:20 GMT Loshemi@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19311 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19311 I'm here.  I've just been busy, with nothing much to add to the discussion (other than to say that I agree with Ayars mostly). Thanks for thinking of me. Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:18:11 GMT Loshemi@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19310 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19310 My take on the Ordinance of Humility is this: The Communion is not only our expression of faith in the body and blood of Jesus Christ, of which we partake in Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:38:36 GMT Patrick Kulati http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19309 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19309 Hi Brothers Nda and Alvin I think we are pretty much on the same wave length in the majority of what you say in your submissions with the obvious exception of Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:24:14 GMT Alvin Masarira http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19308 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19308 David The issue of "glasses for wine" at Communion is NOT an SDA church rule. In my previous SDA church in Germany, we used a SINGLE brass (metalic) cup. Just Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:14:11 GMT Alvin Masarira http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19307 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19307 Hi Sa-sda I have been reading the various contributions and let me clarify a number of issues. My concern is not primarily about the washing of feet itself, Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:51:45 GMT Nda Nxumalo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19306 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19306 I think you miss the point, Bro Pat. Let me explain how I read Bro Alvin, and he can then elucidate further if need be. The point is, footwashing, in the Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:33:11 GMT Lungela Nekile http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19305 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19305 Touching base... Very interesting discussion. I miss you all! Glad to see that Ps Ayars is back... but where has Elder Loshemi disappeared to??? Lift up the Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:59:02 GMT Patrick Kulati http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19304 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19304 Hi Dan et al Pharaoh is on my back this morning!! I'll be quick. So Alvin suggests that we polish each other's shoes. What if everyone is wearing suede shoes? Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:57:29 GMT David Tharasimbi http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19303 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19303 Hi brethren. While on this issue of Communion, particularly regarding the 'cup', the drink. KJV reads : And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:21:51 GMT Nda Nxumalo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19302 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19302 In my hectic mind, Bro Dan, I've already "substituted' that footwashing with a social activity signifying humility (NOT humiliation, but humility) in the Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:46:10 GMT Daniel Dlongolo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19301 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19301 Hi PK   Jesus says he has given us "an example". Is it okay then to come up with practices which are more relevant to our modern-day society? I doubt if foot Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:44:54 GMT Nda Nxumalo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19300 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19300 A look at the account in 1 Corinthians, where Paul addresses the same subject with the Corinthian believers, also gives this interesting take on the last Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:29:56 GMT Patrick Kulati http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19299 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sa-sda/message/19299 Hi Alvin I think Jesus Himself made the link between Communion and Foot washing in this verse " "Now, having washed the disciples' feet, He [Jesus] said, 'I