http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/ SAUNDSPEL - the phonology forum Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:05:24 GMT Pierre Demaere http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48807 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48807 Yes! We do wander of away from creating a true phonetic system, but, if it means it is going to be adopted, then, in general, I can live with this initiative, Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:00:37 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48806 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48806 David Crystal, Linguist, on the radio   http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/national/ngts/2010/02/08/evolving_english   History of spelling  (see my chronology Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:13:27 GMT stbett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48805 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48805 D met'd cd b by mins v d Internet & sel-fons - wid nw d ryt tym, as rapidli groiq mili'ns v txtrs r pruvq.. (The method could be by means of the Internet and Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:49:19 GMT stbett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48804 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48804 ROLO: Hr keurtn. Wot's rong with that? SB: Why not heur? What is the rule? occur = okr or okeur? QR ' cr (the vocalic r is only marked when their is Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:59:07 GMT Gus Hasselquist http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48803 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48803 ... D met'd cd b by mins v d Internet & sel-fons - wid nw d ryt tym, as rapidli groiq mili'ns v txtrs r pruvq.. (The method could be by means of the Internet Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:46:59 GMT Rollo Reid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48802 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48802 Hr keurtn. Wot's rong with that? ________________________________ From: saundspel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:saundspel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bett Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:16:45 GMT stbett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48801 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48801 Valerie, I think you may have misread the proposal. There are 3 categories in the pick your favorite scheme survey. 1. over 85 percent phonemic 2 minimal Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:27:40 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48800 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48800 Bruce,   I agree that there is usually a window of opportunity for any kind of social change and that efforts that are outside the window rarely make a Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:46:22 GMT stbett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48799 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48799 For a half-hour intervew with David Crystal on how the internet has a beering on evolving English, inlcuding spelling, try Radio New Zealand at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:39:56 GMT Tom Zurinskas http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48798 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48798 This forum used to be about phonetic consistency for English. It's changed so much I don't see the need to be here anymore. Please take me off the list. Tom Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:39:23 GMT Georg Geiger http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48797 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48797 Below, in green. I marvel at where you get some of your ideas. g ... From: Steve Bett To: mail@... ; Valerie Yule Cc: sound spell ; spelling society Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:28:01 GMT stbett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48796 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48796 ... native ... foreign ... SB: The competitor can indicate that his proposed reform is for non-native speakers. There is no complicate up a simple survey with Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:43:20 GMT Allan Kiisk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48795 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48795 Kiisk's comments regading the proposed telephone survey: I consider such a survey a waste of time and money. The reasons are: (1) We have not defined if the Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:20:10 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48794 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48794 should public preferences determine symbol assignment? Should the public be asked what they would fancy for a spelling reform?   Adrian takes issue with Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:58:56 GMT Gus Hasselquist http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48793 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/48793 ... If its a srve tecn v jst SS membrs, & as dr r 4in usrs amoq d membrzip, i dont si d problm dr.. (If it's a survey taken of just SS members, and as there