http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/ SAUNDSPEL - the phonology forum Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:10:41 GMT Allan Kiisk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47861 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47861 Steve, I finally deciphered the story. The Spanglish version was a little easier. But even there I had a problem with ceuld and firs az a threishan... I Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:28:26 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47860 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47860 I am sending you some invites.   Here is the GP table from the file section at saundspel  14 Vowels and Combinations ( Br./Am.) 7 short CHECKED vowels [alpha Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:08:27 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47859 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47859 If you have installed the Unifon font, you will be able to read the red letters. Otherwise you will have to deal with the mixed case keyboard code. a trU stxrE Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:32:51 GMT Gus Hasselquist http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47858 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47858 LI name spelling corrected: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Gus Hasselquist Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:03:28 GMT Rollo Reid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47857 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47857 Taesty must bee taesty. Noe point in feeding them poizn. Throo t doo troo bloo wuud bee taestiur. ________________________________ From: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:02:56 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47856 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47856 The proposed PV can be found in the file section. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel   Possible ambiguities in Lojikl Inglish They are probably cleared Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:52:13 GMT Gus Hasselquist http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47855 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47855 I've already come up with a method of comparison of different schemes, shown in SSS's Journal several years ago. However, I will be putting out a new one soon, Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:42:47 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47854 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47854 Adrian,   I agree that we should have some examples of what we are talking about when we say we are in favor of spelling reform.   I think there are certain Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:48:37 GMT Richard Comaish http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47853 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47853 What Steve Bett and his predecessor Henry Sweet have in common is a cavalier polemicism which fails to grasp the importance of evidence-based market research. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:38:59 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47852 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47852 I think both of these notations need to be deicphered.  The Unifon keyboard code is more phonemic but probably more difficult to decipher than QicRyt. The Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:37:03 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47851 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47851 PRINCIPLES OF SPELLING REFORM http://victorian.fortunecity.com/vangogh/555/Spell/sweet-short.html THE absolute necessity of phonetic reform is now almost Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:47:05 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47850 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47850 http://www.simpelfonetik.com/   Each vowel letter is associated with a short, unstressed, and  long sound and combinations ltr Alternatives    TS - QR - Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:06:54 GMT Tom Zurinskas http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47849 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47849 When you take into account word frequency, the word "receive" is very popular, and the rule "for the sound ~ee, it's "i" before "e" accept after "c" is fair Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:16:16 GMT Steve Bett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47848 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47848 VY: unstressed diminished vowels should not be reduced to a schwa. That would be slurred speech.  (paraphrased) Valerie,   I am sure that Tom and a few Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:35:41 GMT Richard C http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47847 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saundspel/message/47847 ... I bought a couple of old copies, thinking they might come in, in some way. They, and the history behind them, are very interesting, when you first hear