http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/ Scrum Users Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:39:50 GMT Jay Conne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42587 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42587 Hi Paul, I like Ron's attitude - it fits the context. Re- 'My' - People who know me know I care about words (as well as the ideas in Scrum, Agile, etc.) 'My', Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:32:23 GMT George Dinwiddie http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42586 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42586 ... Niklas, I would absolutely have such a retrospective. I would also try to judge the level of safety felt by the participants. It might be that some would Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:50:45 GMT Dan Rawsthorne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42585 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42585 Or thought they were... Dan Rawsthorne, PhD, CST Senior Coach, Danube Technologies dan@..., 425-269-8628 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:49:43 GMT Dan Rawsthorne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42584 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42584 Well, velocity wasn't the question. What was the "doneness" criteria that the Team could have committed to? Can it commit to something that is dependent on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:48:27 GMT martin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42583 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42583 I completely agree with Ron. The best experience I had was when the PO was part of the team, being there to answer questions by the team at once, being present Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:47:48 GMT Ron Jeffries http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42582 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42582 Hello, Michael. On Saturday, November 7, 2009, at 5:00:45 PM, you ... Yes. I should think so. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com www.xprogramming.com/blog Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:47:28 GMT Dan Rawsthorne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42581 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42581 Yes, it's all about commitment. The estimates are unimportant except as they influence commitment. Dan Rawsthorne, PhD, CST Senior Coach, Danube Technologies Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:46:01 GMT Dan Rawsthorne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42580 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42580 No, you would never invent a *rule* against it. You look for the person who is accountable, and that's the PO, If this person is on the customer side, that's Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:44:06 GMT Dan Rawsthorne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42579 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42579 well, as long as they can be on the team and actually make the decisions. If there is no contractual separation it is possible.When there's a contract in the Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:42:45 GMT Dan Rawsthorne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42578 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42578 Agreed. But lately I'm seeing such bad code that has to be the first thing addressed, or at least mentioned. Dan Rawsthorne, PhD, CST Senior Coach, Danube Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:36:44 GMT Ron Jeffries http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42577 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42577 Hello, martin. On Saturday, November 7, 2009, at 4:48:11 PM, you ... I think it is generally best to timebox experiments to about a half day or day. Ron Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:03:16 GMT martin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42576 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42576 ... The team was willing, but the PO wanted to know what else he would get during this sprint. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:02:42 GMT martin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42575 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42575 ... The team knew their velocity. But the priority of the prototype item was highest, so in order to know *approximately* which items could fit in the sprint Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:00:52 GMT Michael James http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42574 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42574 ... Some customers might be more satisfied with the experience if they were in the driver's seat. --mj Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:57:53 GMT Michael James http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42573 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scrumdevelopment/message/42573 ... Seems to me the only estimate that matters in this case is whether or not the team's willing to try it within the Sprint timebox. --mj