http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/ secession Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:34:45 GMT Jason Sorens http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2207 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2207 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8310928.stm Terms for Sudan referendum agreed Armed man in southern Sudan 23.9.09 More than 2,000 people have died in ethnic Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:08:04 GMT Ric Ben-Safed http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2206 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2206 As Benjamin Franklin said on the last day of the Constitutional convention in 1787. "In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:36:14 GMT Dr Andrew J Cleary http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2205 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2205 I can't speak for others but I don't see how a movement based around "faith" is going to get me involved... The first page says something about "Faith in Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:21:08 GMT aditmore@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2204 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2204 One thing I need to mention here as a reminder is that voting machine issues like paper printouts are already highly decentralized, usually decided at the Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:19:48 GMT Gned the Gnome http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2203 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2203 - Interesting idea, including your initial discussion of why the current system is so badly flawed that the normal process may already be beyond repair, but I Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:48:40 GMT Scott Burger http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2202 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2202 http://www.styleweekly.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=28AF83EE52D24DF Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:05:13 GMT aditmore@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2201 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2201 I meant primarily that it can't be gotten to from here. Once I established that, the other question is moot and so I don't have to consider it or make a Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:41:03 GMT Gned the Gnome http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2200 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2200 - Ultimately you've got it right, and it's called Panarchy, which means multiple competing local gov't's in the same territory, no more territorial monopolies. Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:00:39 GMT Dr Andrew J Cleary http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2199 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2199 Thanks. A few clarifications: It's not realistic because it realistically wouldn't work, or because it realistically can't be gotten from here? What is not Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:32:38 GMT aditmore@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2198 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2198 I don't consider individual secession to be realistic, though Gned does. Neighborhood secession from big cities is a very important concept especially to Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:21:06 GMT Dr Andrew J Cleary http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2197 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2197 I'm very new to this list so I have a basic question: Isn't the whole idea of government based on any contiguous land mass - whether it's big, like the current Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:00:15 GMT aditmore@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2196 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2196 I would prefer districts (and gerrymandering) be eliminated by electing congress statewide by parliamentary system with each party getting seats in proportion Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:21:05 GMT Gned the Gnome http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2195 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2195 - Interesting idea, and a compromise between the current de facto system and the URT's model. The logical extension of your suggestion, with some of our model Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:54:55 GMT Ric Ben-Safed http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2194 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2194 Its simple really. I've just written to my Governor of the "Commonwealth of Pennsylvania" to establish a Commission to determine what the u.s. house Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:26:15 GMT Ric Ben-Safed http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2193 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/secession/message/2193 In other words Russell Means is quite happy with Obama and the Democrats in the Congress. He doesn't have a cause anymore. ... From: Fiorenzo To: