http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/ Provided for intelligent discussion of whatever issues the members decide to address, provided by the Site of the Sentient Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:59:42 GMT KAZ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15354 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15354 ... Socialism, being not a true philosophy but an elaborate rationale for a ruling class to burden society with the inefficiency and poverty of their coercion, Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:35:43 GMT Nolo Promittere http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15353 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15353 Okay, you need an analogy that that more closely follows your argument while still showing that your argument does not reach a valid conclusion - I can do Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:49:42 GMT Mike DiBaggio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15352 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15352 When someone is drunk, they shouldn't be driving. Drunks are not drunk all the time. Homosexuals, allegedly, are homosexual all of the time. The analogy fits Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:41:40 GMT Mike DiBaggio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15351 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15351 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Christian Haerle < ... What does this have to do with anything I said? Voluntary organizations must be able to set their own Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:20:13 GMT Christian Haerle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15350 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15350 Nolo wrote: You know how poor an argument that is, right? Christian: Nope. Please explain. Nolo wrote: It's like saying "hey, sober people can, and have in Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:18:44 GMT Christian Haerle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15349 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15349 Mike wrote: That is a fantastic rule for society at large, where every person is automatically a member and must be tolerated, but a terribly naive and Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:31:04 GMT Mike DiBaggio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15348 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15348 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Nolo Promittere ... Why do they have Marines on board ships? Because sheep would be too obvious. Mike Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:25:23 GMT Nolo Promittere http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15347 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15347 You know how poor an argument that is, right? It's like saying "hey, sober people can, and have in the past, had car accidents, so arguing that drunks should Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:23:33 GMT Mike DiBaggio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15346 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15346 That is a fantastic rule for society at large, where every person is automatically a member and must be tolerated, but a terribly naive and dangerous attitude Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:14:37 GMT Christian Haerle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15345 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15345 Hi Mike, It proves that heteros can cause problems, and that the argument that gays should be excluded because of "possible" problems is a false one. When Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:05:32 GMT Mike DiBaggio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15344 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15344 What does Tailhook prove, besides affirming our point about enabling romantic and sexual contact in the military? Mike On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:00:28 GMT Mike DiBaggio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15343 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15343 On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Christian Haerle < ... Why? ... Stipulating that the poll is accurate, what about the remaining 1/4th? Also, "having no Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:08:45 GMT Christian Haerle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15342 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15342 Let's not forget the problems heteros have caused. Remember "Tailhook"? Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:05:10 GMT Christian Haerle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15341 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15341 I think it is a bad idea to train the military to accept discrimination. At one time it was blacks, then women, now gays. Not all exclusion is discriminatory. Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:25:42 GMT Nolo Promittere http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15340 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sentient/message/15340 From my blog: The news for global warming alarmists just keeps getting worse and worse for them. Today it came from two sources. First, the Science and Public