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      <title>Re: Michael&#39;s Wonderland</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:20:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ashraf Galal</dc:creator>
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      <description>The book &quot;SOA Governance achieving and sustaining business and it agility&quot; by Willim Brown, Robert Laird, Clive Gee and Tilak Mitra. IBM press Is deserve the</description>
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      <title>Michael on Standards</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:49:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Gervas Douglas</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;&lt;OASIS SOA technical Committee has published the second Public Review Draft of SOA Reference Architecture now under the refined title &#39;Public Review of</description>
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      <title>Michael&#39;s Wonderland</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:34:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Gervas Douglas</dc:creator>
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      <description>You can read the following article in full at: http://www.infoq.com/articles/poulin-wonderland-soa-governance Gervas &lt;&lt;One man, Harry W., once said &quot; Alice</description>
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      <title>Re: [ZapFlash] The Four Stages of SOA Governance</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:37:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ashraf Galal</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/message/13959</link>
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      <description>Governance is different than management. Governance is not charged with implementing the SOA. Governance provides oversight to see that SOA is accomplished in</description>
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      <title>[ZapFlash] The Four Stages of SOA Governance</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:32:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>rschmelzer</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/message/13958</link>
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      <description>The Four Stages of SOA Governance Document ID: ZAPFLASH-20091112 | Document Type: ZapFlash By: Jason Bloomberg | Posted: Nov. 12, 2009 For several years now,</description>
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      <title>HTTP not good enough for the Web</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:37:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Steve Jones</dc:creator>
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      <description>http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/spdy/spdy-whitepaper ... Today, HTTP and TCP are the protocols of the web.  TCP is the generic, reliable transport</description>
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      <title>Steve on SOA &amp; BPM</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:28:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Gervas Douglas</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/message/13956</link>
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      <description>&lt;&lt;What is a &#39;&#39;service&#39;&#39;? What is a &#39;&#39;process&#39;&#39;? What are &#39;&#39;steps&#39;&#39; in a process? Increasingly software services architects are asking questions of just such a</description>
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      <title>Re: Hariharan on ESBs</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:02:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Michael Poulin</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;ESB is not for ... service development&gt;, it is for standardised integration. &quot;Especially enterprise service bus (ESB) architecture tools have excellent</description>
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      <title>Hariharan on ESBs</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:08:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Gervas Douglas</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/message/13954</link>
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      <description>&lt;&lt;Many small and medium enterprises started developing web business systems based on Service Oriented Architecture. Since SOA propaganda has created enormous</description>
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      <title>Re: help me</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:21:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ashraf Galal</dc:creator>
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      <description>I can provide you with my dissertation that I wrote it 2007, if you want. The purpose was to clarifying the concept and compare the two architectural styles</description>
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      <title>Re: Anne on REST-*</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:17:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Michael Poulin</dc:creator>
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      <description>Agree with Steve - Michael ________________________________ From: Steve Jones &lt;jones.steveg@...&gt; To: service-orientated-architecture@yahoogroups.com </description>
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      <title>Lawson on Staff costs and Middleware</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:28:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Gervas Douglas</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;&lt;I follow a lot of SOA discussions that, for various reasons, I don&#39;t write about on this blog. First, this isn&#39;t an SOA blog; it&#39;s an integration blog, and</description>
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      <title>Re: Anne on REST-*</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:50:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Steve Jones</dc:creator>
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      <description>2009/11/8 Jan Algermissen &lt;algermissen1971@...&gt; ... A claim without much evidence.  I&#39;d argue that my claim that specific interfaces with tight definitions</description>
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      <title>Re: Anne on REST-*</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:19:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jan Algermissen</dc:creator>
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      <description>Steve, ... I made a mistake in terminology there &#39;rigid&#39; should have been &#39;specific&#39;. So, REST advocates prefer the uniform interface over the specific because</description>
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      <title>Re: help me</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:31:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Michael Poulin</dc:creator>
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      <description>Sweta, it involves neither programming nor &#39;just apps&#39; but architecture and training takes several years... - Michael ________________________________ From:</description>
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