http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/ Discussion of topics related to the SNOBOL4 programming language (a high-level, general-purpose programming language that empha Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:50:57 GMT Greg White http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4547 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4547 Perhaps a professional trade secret, may sometimes be better than a patent, secrets are very often disclosed, but patents are nearly always broken. I have Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:35:04 GMT Dave Feustel http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4546 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4546 ... From: "Andrew Koenig" <ark@...> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <snobol4@...> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: Re: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 17:16:24 GMT dewar@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4545 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4545 right IPR = intellectual property rights ... Mon, 09 Jul 2001 17:02:06 GMT Mike Radow http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4544 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4544 - On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 dewar@... wrote: ...snipped... - ... - ??? New here |||...: It this "Intellectual Property Rights", other? Thanks. Mike - - Sat, 07 Jul 2001 23:02:09 GMT Bob Goldberg http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4543 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4543 Help! I'm currently retyping the original Spitbol 360 patches from listings. The typing is easy. The verification is painful! Does anyone have the original Sat, 07 Jul 2001 02:25:08 GMT Greg White http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4542 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4542 I always thought that copyright was more applicable for written code than a patent. But then you people in usa can even patent genes that don't belong to you. Sat, 07 Jul 2001 01:39:20 GMT dewar@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4541 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4541 <<Unfortunately, as Apple and many other firms have discovered, technical superiority does not consistently result in marketing superiority, nor in revenue Fri, 06 Jul 2001 22:26:05 GMT Dennis Newbold http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4540 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4540 ... Unfortunately, as Apple and many other firms have discovered, technical superiority does not consistently result in marketing superiority, nor in revenue Fri, 06 Jul 2001 20:12:26 GMT Mike Radow http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4539 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4539 - On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Andrew Koenig wrote: ...snipped... - ... ..and... On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 Robert Dewar wrote: ...snipped... - ... .. ... - I agree with all of Fri, 06 Jul 2001 17:55:18 GMT dewar@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4538 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4538 <<Two issues here...: 1. I'm asking for alternatives to protecting the IP, created by the innovative folks at our investments. Incentives _must_be_ Fri, 06 Jul 2001 17:44:30 GMT Mike Radow http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4537 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4537 - On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 dewar@... wrote: ...snipped... Mike ... Robert ... - Actually, I am generalizing from doing this for 20+ years. During this time I've Fri, 06 Jul 2001 15:03:05 GMT dewar@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4536 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4536 <<I would argue that the real question is whether the patent system as a whole promotes progress, not whether every individual patent promotes progress. ... We Fri, 06 Jul 2001 14:58:03 GMT dewar@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4535 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4535 <<It seems to me that the fundamental idea is a kind of bargain with the government: In exchange for protection against others using one's ideas for a while, Fri, 06 Jul 2001 14:42:12 GMT Andrew Koenig http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4534 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4534 dewar> In each case, the issue is whether or not the patents promote dewar> progress, if they do, then fine, if not, then they are dewar> unconstitutional. I Fri, 06 Jul 2001 14:35:11 GMT Andrew Koenig http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4533 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/snobol4/message/4533 My opinion on software patents: According to the US Constitution, patents exist for a specific purpose (promote progress of science and useful arts) by a