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      <title>16 INCH  F 10.3  SUPER CHIEF</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:06:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/863</link>
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      <description>ED and I are making a 16 f 10 offaxis CHief the telescope will be 8.5 ft and the EYEPIECE IS UNDER 4 FT  from the primary .The primary 1 5/8 inch thick pyrex</description>
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      <title>Re: 16inch f 10.3 chief mirror</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:12:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Peter De Baan De Baan</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/862</link>
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      <description>To: spiderless@yahoogroups.com From: airfrederick@... Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:36:24 &#43;0000 Subject: [spiderless] 16inch f 10.3 chief mirror I have a 16</description>
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      <title>16inch f 10.3 chief mirror</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:37:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/861</link>
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      <description>I have a 16 inch pyrex 1 5/8 thick mirror all polished out . the RC is 330 f 10.3 still have correcting to do. Should make a killer chief !!</description>
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      <title>Re: Aplanatic Chief</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:41:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/860</link>
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      <description>Yes it is should be 12, I always seem to make a mistake when I enter these by hand. Ed</description>
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      <title>Re: Aplanatic Chief</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:00:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>marcething</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/859</link>
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      <description>Hi Ed , Thanks for all the efforts , I really apreciate that ! After making already quit a few telescopes , mainly Newtons and a 6 inch Schiefspiegler , and</description>
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      <title>Re: Aplanatic Chief</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:43:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ed Jones</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/858</link>
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      <description>Thanks, good catch, that thickness shouldn&#39;t be there. I&#39;ll repost it. Ed On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Richard F.L.R. Snashall &lt;rflrs@...</description>
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      <title>Re: Aplanatic Chief</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:14:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Richard F.L.R. Snashall</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/857</link>
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      <description>... The thickness on surface 6 (the secondary): Is the system still physically realizable?</description>
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      <title>Aplanatic Chief</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:00:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/856</link>
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      <description>I uploaded a Zemax file for Marc called &quot;12inchCHieff8bcomafree2.ZMX&quot; a 12 inch f/8 aplanatic Chief design. Ed</description>
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      <title>big chief</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:33:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/855</link>
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      <description>a friend came over tonight we spent some time lineing up the 20 offaxis chief . worked very good jupiter looked great at 425 power. deepsky is very nice black</description>
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      <title>16 f 10 super chief</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/854</link>
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      <description>Grinding a 16 f 10 for EDS offaxis chief. Grinding 320 grit now . Alot of ways to set one up the  eyepiece can be from 3ft to 13 ft high .it could be the new</description>
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      <title>Re: Dick&#39;s Chief...!</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:37:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/853</link>
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      <description>I didn&#39;t hear him talk about a comparison before and after, he was pretty excited about the design though. He kept telling my old boss &quot;you gotta build one of</description>
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      <title>Dick&#39;s Chief...!</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:14:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>mdhopt53</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/852</link>
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      <description>Looks really nice! It&#39;d be great if we could hear about a comparison between the formentioned Newt form, and the Chief- could you persuade him? Mark</description>
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      <title>Re: Coma Free Chief</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:04:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>mdhopt53</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/851</link>
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      <description>Please don&#39;t get me wrong, I&#39;m not saying they can&#39;t be done easily, just that it took me a week to figure out the variables to do a 6&quot; F/25 concave mirror!</description>
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      <title>Re: Coma Free Chief</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:58:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>mdhopt53</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/850</link>
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      <description>Never said that, I never used the planetary rig. I made flats in batches of 50-100 at a time, with generally 6 spindles going. I averaged one in 15 minutes to</description>
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      <title>Re: Coma Free Chief</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:30:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/spiderless/message/849</link>
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      <description>Maybe your mean doing flats on a large planetary polishing machine then yes you&#39;re right, a flat is fairly straight forward. Doing a flat or one of these long</description>
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