http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/ Slow reading of Spinoza's Tractatus Theologico-Politicus Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:14:54 GMT enteract Migrated User http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/98 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/98 V-Slow Reading At first, this chapter seems to be a moping up exercise. Spinoza has, as he ways, already proven to this own satisfaction that the Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:51:11 GMT Terry Neff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/97 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/97 Hi All, Spinoza has shown in the previous chapter (Ch. 3 - The Vocation of the Hebrews) that any idea of a particular people, whether Jewish or otherwise, Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:51:56 GMT enteract Migrated User http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/96 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/96 Hi, all: On the one hand, I am sending out a footnote to my comments on Chapter III which is interesting as discussing the differences between Spinoza and his Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:57:13 GMT Terry Neff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/95 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/95 Hi All, At the end of the last chapter [Ch. 2] Spinoza commented: ===== TPT02-P50: ...Although the points we have just raised concerning prophets and prophecy Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:36:32 GMT enteract Migrated User http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/94 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/94 Slow Reading-Chapter III Much of this chapter seems to have little enough to do with Spinoza’s ostensible thesis “that revelation is irrelevant to Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:03:30 GMT enteract Migrated User http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/93 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/93 Slow Reading-Chapter II Spinoza, it will be remembered, is trying to prove that revelation or prophecy is irrelevant to “philosophical” (a word that for Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:56:23 GMT Terry Neff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/92 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/92 Hi All, Having moved on to Chapter 2 in my Slow Reading the following thoughts came to mind as I read. I hope others will also share here their thoughts on Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:54:16 GMT Terry Neff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/91 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/91 Hi All, Having completed a reading (admittedly not my first, although I often try to approach any reading as if for the first time) of Chapter 1 - Of Prophecy, Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:02:09 GMT enteract Migrated User http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/90 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/90 Hi, all Here is a discussion of Chapter 1 of the TTP, Comments are invited Steve Oren Slow Reading Chapter 1 In reading Spinoza, we should bear in mind Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:44:16 GMT Terry Neff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/89 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/89 Hi All, I guess it might go without saying (but then if no one says anything this Yahoo Group might as well not exist :-) that, following the unanimous Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:21:03 GMT Terry Neff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/88 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/88 Hi Ethel, ... You seem to refer to "Knowing" here as if there is only one kind. Spinoza observed in his own thinking that there were different ways in which he Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:29:22 GMT Ethel Jean (Kowan) Saltz http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/87 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/87 ... seems to me ... never really ... and "Ideas", ... own case I ... just say ... places. ... ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:48:43 GMT Terry Neff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/86 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/86 Hi Ethel (and All :-), ... etc... The above is the introduction to one of his other works (not the Theological-Political Treatise), as I think you acknowledge Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:45:33 GMT John Willemsens http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/85 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/85 The new Yahoo spam guard is stopping perfectly legitimate postings from going straight through to the lists! This means that some of our postings might be Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:38:18 GMT Ethel Jean (Kowan) Saltz http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/84 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spinoza-ttp/message/84 ... just to ... ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] In general, from reading ETHICS and TTP, I get the "feeling" that Spinoza is emphatic about ideas but