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      <title>Re: False Impressions ae not &#39;Bad&#39; [was:Response to Steve&#39;s critique</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:17:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Steve Marquis</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27713</link>
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      <description>Jan writes: ______________    I didn&#39;t say that the impressions that should not be accepted are literally bad (on the Stoic perspective). I said that they</description>
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      <title>Re: Stoicism and Sparta</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:04:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Vicki Russell</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27712</link>
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      <description>The Spartans made an impression on Socrates who was lifted up as a hero worthy of emulation by Epictetus. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy says that he</description>
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      <title>Stoicism and Sparta</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:23:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Stoic Stoic</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27711</link>
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      <description>There&#39;s an interesting show on Sparta on this week&#39;s In Our Time on the BBC - the link is below. They discuss the rigorous and austere Spartan training, and it</description>
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      <title>Response to Steve&#39;s critique of my response to Steve&#39;s critique</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:15:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>jan.garrett@...</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27710</link>
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      <description>... RESPONSE. I didn&#39;t say that the impressions that should not be accepted are literally bad (on the Stoic perspective). I said that they are metaphorically</description>
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      <title>Re: Thoreau the Stoic?</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:25:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Michel Daw</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27709</link>
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      <description>This simplicity of life approach would be equally assigned to Epicureanism. The idea of just enough, and no more. ... -- Cheers, Michel</description>
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      <title>Re: Was Paul a Jew?</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:12:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kent Backman</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27708</link>
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      <description>... Karlton&gt; According the earliest &quot;christian&quot; sources, the ebionites, an essene sect, Paul was not a jew. He was a pagan, born of pagan parents in Tarsus and</description>
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      <title>Thoreau the Stoic?</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:11:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>BrianE</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27707</link>
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      <description>Some of the writings of Thoreau are basically Stoic in nature. &quot; However mean your life is, meet it and live it;do not shun it and call it names.&quot; &quot;Laying up</description>
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      <title>Re: Was Paul a Jew?</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:47:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Grant Sterling</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27706</link>
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      <description>... ***** The whole reason?  Really?  Did he confide this to you personally, or have you found his secret diaries?  It&#39;s certainly not the only reason he</description>
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      <title>Re: Was Paul a Jew?</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:07:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>stoic_thorn_bearer</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27705</link>
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      <description>Of course there were Gentile converts to Judaism, I don&#39;t think anyone is denying that. And of course New Testament Christianity is not Old Testament Judaism.</description>
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      <title>Re: Was Paul a Jew?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:14:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Vicki Russell</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27704</link>
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      <description>Hello Curt, If there were no theological differences, there would be no sects. You also seem to be vigorously engaged in vanquishing yet another pesky</description>
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      <title>Belief in God [was: Does the use of Logic and Reason still support t</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:05:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>gich2</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27703</link>
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      <description>Keith wrote: &quot;For myself, I think it is logical to believe in God because I think (as many here will be all too familiar) that the Cosmological Argument for</description>
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      <title>Re: Was Paul a Jew?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:12:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Curt Steinmetz</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27702</link>
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      <description>... This glosses over the fact that Jews were already involved in proselytizing to the Gentiles all over the Roman Empire (and even outside the Roman Empire</description>
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      <title>Re: The Hegemonikon and the Prohairesis</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:19:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Stoic Stoic</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27701</link>
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      <description>thanks Steve and Jan best Jules ... From: Jan Garrett &lt;jan.garrett@...&gt; Subject: [stoics] The Hegemonikon and the Prohairesis To: &quot;Stoics&quot;</description>
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      <title>Re: The key point in my response to Steve&#39;s critique</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:41:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Steve Marquis</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27700</link>
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      <description>Jan writes: ________________ But impressions that should not be accepted are, METAPHORICALLY  SPEAKING, bad, like rotten food that should not be consumed. </description>
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      <title>The key point in my response to Steve&#39;s critique</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:19:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jan Garrett</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stoics/message/27699</link>
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      <description>This is the key point in my response to Steve&#39;s critique: There is a difference between the Stoic&#39;s understanding of what he is doing and what I&#39;ll call the</description>
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