http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/ Succeeding With Agile Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:38:45 GMT Mike Cohn http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/255 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/255 Hmmm. Maybe "Bootstrapping Additional Teams" or something. Good suggestion. I'll think more about it. Thanks, Mike Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:21:17 GMT Stefan van den Oord http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/254 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/254 Hi Mike, I didn't read the chapter (yet?), but your reaction to Brad made me think of a title in terms of "getting started", or "bootstrapping scrum". Maybe Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:56:14 GMT Mike Cohn http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/253 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/253 Hi Brad-- Thanks for reading the chapter and sending your comments. I have to admit to being confused at first. The chapter is about "how do we take these Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:40 GMT Brad Appleton http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/252 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/252 I like the patterns described in this chapter (Split & Seed, Grow & Split, Internal Coaching). I particularly like that they discuss cons as well as pros, and Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:23:36 GMT Mike Cohn http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/251 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/251 Hi John-- Thanks for your comments. I'll dig into them when I work on revising that chapter next week. The December publication date is firm. My goal is Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:25:18 GMT John Hebley http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/250 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/250 Minor typo, first line. Getting started with Scrums IS one thing. I agree with the editors note on page 440 - no need to repeat the approach name, especially Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:02:02 GMT Mike Cohn http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/249 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/249 Hello-- Two things: First, chapter 1 on "Patterns for Spreading Scrum" is now available on the website at http://www.succeedingwithagile.com/ I can only accept Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:26:41 GMT Mike Cohn http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/248 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/248 Thanks, Brad. I'm on vacation this week and then back at it with some dedicated time trying to wrap things up. I appreciate your comments and will incorporate Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:17:07 GMT Brad Appleton http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/247 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/247 Finally got around to re-reading this, I have only a few comments ... p.3 - did you want to say you "witnessed several agile failure"? or were those failed Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:46:47 GMT Brad Appleton http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/246 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/246 ... Actually, for me, the key thing is whether or not the people who meet, (and even do work on the "improvement backlog") are considered to be the whole Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:58:51 GMT Mike Cohn http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/245 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/245 Thanks, Brad. I'll look through the references you've provided and see if I have more ways of commenting on the size of the communities and their openness to Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:13:56 GMT Brad Appleton http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/244 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/244 Hi Mike! Finally got around to finishing this. I *definitely* like the new emphasis on communities of practice. In fact one of my submissions to Agile2009 had Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:57:03 GMT Mike Cohn http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/243 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/243 Hello-- Many of you have already seen chapter 1, but I've changed it some and have reposted it in case you'd like to take a look. It is available on the site Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:37:57 GMT Dan Neumann http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/242 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/242 I re-read the part I was confused about, and I think it was just my misunderstanding of the text in relation to the images. In my head, I was trying to relate Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:32:37 GMT Mike Cohn http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/241 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/succeedingwithagile/message/241 Hmm. I'll have to re-read that section super carefully to make sure I get all the references right. I've been revising that chapter this week and really hope