http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/ Tengwar Scribe Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:07:02 GMT Måns Björkman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/307 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/307 ... _Lye melin_ is perhaps easier to pronounce. The meaning would of course not be affected. Yours, Måns Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:53:21 GMT Brendan Gordon http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/306 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/306 Quenya grammar appears to be tricky for neophytes. (Also, the suffix -lle would be pronounced with a long L as in Italian; the Spanish pronunciation is Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:23:41 GMT Måns Björkman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/305 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/305 You don't. _-lle_ is a Quenya ending meaning, according to some sources, plural "you" (or "y'all", as some say nowadays). Tolkien seems to have rejected this Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:11:26 GMT Måns Björkman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/304 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/304 The Elfscript group is, for all intents and purposes, dead. Try the group Elfscript2 (yes, the name is ingenious, isn't it? :-) instead. /Måns Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:10:12 GMT Måns Björkman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/303 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/303 Barbara, You got it right about the transcriber. The "English" mode actually works for several languages, but the Quenya and Sindarin modes are best used only Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:02:59 GMT Josh Griffing http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/302 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/302 Are you sure it's 'lle', and not 'ile' or some such, using sans-serif fonts in which a lowercase L looks a LOT like a capital I? If it's two L's and an E, I'd Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:20:23 GMT Barbara Healy http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/301 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/301 I found "lle" as the translation for "you" but have no idea how to pronounce it....as in "amin mela lle" which means, I think, "I love you". thanks, Barb Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:19:07 GMT Barbara Healy http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/300 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/300 p.s. this is NOT for a tattoo, it's for a dog collar/tag, so it won't be engraved in stone, so to speak. But I'd still like for it to be accurate. I went to Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:11:49 GMT Barbara Healy http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/299 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/299 Thank you! You're right -- it runs flawlessly on my desktop, too. But it's unearthed another problem: the phrase I was transcribing in the old transcriber Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:55:14 GMT Måns Björkman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/298 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/298 ... OK, now I get it. The phrase is actually Sindarin throughout. I got confused by _estel_, which is the *noun* "trust, hope" in both Quenya and Sindarin. Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:23:05 GMT Josh Griffing http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/297 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/297 That's correct: the text is merely transcribed into the elven script. A translator would have to account for all manner of additional rules of grammar and Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:49:32 GMT Melda4824@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/296 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/296 Just thought of a question. according to the instructions: "Note - this is not a dictionary or translator - texts are not translated into Elvish but only Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:19:31 GMT Shelby Kate Jones http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/295 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/295 I got the phrase from arwen in the movies. so i wasn't aware it was a mix. she said estelio han, estelio veleth. supposedly trust this, trust love. that Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:12:27 GMT Måns Björkman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/294 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/294 Shelby, The transcription is OK (the English mode which you use work with most languages), but the translation is a mix of Quenya and Sindarin. Quenya for Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:06:52 GMT Måns Björkman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/293 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tengscribe/message/293 Yes, TengScribe runs flawlessly on my Windows Vista laptop. Yours, Måns