http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/ The Click That Teaches Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:50:29 GMT Katie Bartlett http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8447 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8447 Hi Jane, There are different kinds of chains, and therefore loops. You get to decide how much control you want over the individual behaviors. If you want a Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:41:27 GMT Cindy Martin http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8446 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8446 Hi Jane, I am just beginning to grasp this loop concept, too. Alex didn't do her entire song and dance on loopy training at our clinic, because we were a Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:23:38 GMT Cindy Martin http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8445 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8445 ... Heike, Premack is a human name. It refers to a concept where one behavior is reinforced by another preferred behavior. Mr. Premack described this, so it Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:15:47 GMT Jane Jackson http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8444 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8444 Thanks for the further thoughts Katie. I am seeing loops everywhere now...or sometimes where they should be and aren¹t! ... The other question I have is Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:14:45 GMT Katie Bartlett http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8443 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8443 Hi Jane, I had a few more thoughts on the loopy training. One is that I was thinking about what the difference is between a training loop that only has direct Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:17:04 GMT Jane Jackson http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8442 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8442 ... I wondered about this yesterday as I went out to play with some loopiness. If we have a good loop, we can insert another behavior into it, and then Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:57:37 GMT Heike Uthmann http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8441 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8441 Thank you Helen, this was a great quick help!! so this is what we are doing with the mat at the moment and why it works, although there is no click at this Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:49:39 GMT Helen Wickham http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8440 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8440 Heike You can't 'translate' Premack as it's the name of an specific person/scientist - David Premack. I've quickly Googled a little info for you below which Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:39:46 GMT Heike Uthmann http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8439 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8439 Hi everone, i am making my way through this post, it will take a while... but can anybody give me a translation of the word "Premack"? thanks Heike Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:34:20 GMT doris boyer http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8438 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8438 Yes, I learned this too an Alexs clinic in France. Nestor just tried yesterday this new method of "mom I love you , I lean on you " Thanks for the reminder , Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:10:15 GMT doris boyer http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8437 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8437 Yes Yvonne, I have to admit, I'm glad to see his attachment at my little person. Being white, it's not a black spot, but a white cloud . My reaction : I just Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:36:48 GMT Cindy Martin http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8436 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8436 ... I keep trying to find time to write a genuine report of our clinic with Alex two weeks ago.... but... This came up at the clinic, for several of us. It Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:46:23 GMT Yvonne Lehey http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8435 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8435 On Saturday, 7 November 2009 at 20:08:58 +0000, doris boyer wrote: Hi Doris, ... He really sounds funny! :-D ... with his shoulder .This is a new idea, we Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:09:06 GMT doris boyer http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8434 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8434 Loopy Nestor says : "thanks" Today we worked at basics, the pre wwylm , without chewing the rope, backing to get the treat where the horses head have to be, Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:50:46 GMT Cindy Martin http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8433 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_click_that_teaches/message/8433 ... So it's a HOOP loop! Leave it to Nestor, fence dismantler extraordinaire. Cindy M