http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/ the Thomas Szasz discussion group Thu, 15 May 2008 08:51:24 GMT Martin Kessler http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1750 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1750 Here is a quote from Szasz's book Coersion as Cure p 148: " It appears that neither psychiatrists, nor the editors of medical and scientific publications, nor Tue, 06 May 2008 18:51:27 GMT Matt Dioguardi http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1749 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1749 CNN has an article on a new treatment for depression, ?gJolting the brain fights deep depression?g ... regulating the abnormal signals to brain causing the Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:25:09 GMT Kitty Antonik Wakfer http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1748 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1748 ... Per abstract of most recent paper listed at PubMed (using search terms, "schizophrenia" "glutamate" - 1192 total results), http://pmid.us/18297054 - "The Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:11:54 GMT Martin Kessler http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1747 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1747 I read some of the article above. Enough to tell me that schizophrenia is still regarded as a disease. Basically the new drug deals with glutamate instead of Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:09:38 GMT Martin Kessler http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1746 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1746 I don't know what "real" people are saying about such a law. I'm sure it would vary depending on what people think. But that's not the answer you're looking Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:15:58 GMT Hagai Aviel http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1745 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1745 my meaning was to learn what "real" people in Massachussetts are saying about such a law and the conditions it imposes on everyday critical points of life and Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:55:13 GMT Martin Kessler http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1744 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1744 Yes Hagai, As there are approved mental patients and approved treatments, there are approved drugs leagally obtainable somewhat free market, approved Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:54:38 GMT Acquista http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1743 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1743 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080215/people_nm/spears_steel_dc Author Steel knows Spears family mental illness pain In this article, Steel supports the Spears Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:55:44 GMT Hagai Aviel http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1742 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1742 so in order to be shielded against being fired from work one needs to adopt the label of an "approved" mental patient, as opposed to those not approved (i.e. Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:55:24 GMT Martin Kessler http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1741 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1741 I really don't know. I would guess the more libertarian employers would probably have more of a problem with these laws, but the psychiatric lobby and Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:22:51 GMT Acquista http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1740 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1740 Some thots on ADA in US: The American Disabilities Act seems to afford some protection for people diagnosed as alcholics. In particular, if a person goes for Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:38:24 GMT Hagai Aviel http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1739 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1739 as a residing citizen of Massachussetts can you describe how the Massachussetts's employers regard such a law? how the general population regard such a Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:46:30 GMT Martin Kessler http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1738 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1738 Hi Hagai, There is a law with limited protection for alcoholics: Alcoholism is also a disability covered by these laws, but recreational use of alcohol is Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:21:23 GMT Martin Kessler http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1737 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1737 Hi Hagai, Yes, I believe that is the case. Remember that alcoholism is now listed as a mental illness and a disability. Of course employees must still go Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:01 GMT stvn http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1736 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1736 Review of Coercion as Cure, by Alice Gee. http://metapsychology.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=book&id=4078&cn=135 The author seems unaware of the extent