http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/ the Thomas Szasz discussion group Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:29:24 GMT Martin Kessler http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1969 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1969 Hi Michel, Your statement about perception is partly correct. There is actually a branch of psychology called Psychophysics developed by Wilhelm Wundt. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:29:17 GMT michel.latulippe http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1968 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1968 Yesterday, at Fort Hood Texas there was a rampage. 13 people are dead and many other injured. Watching the news, at some point, the question was raised if the Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:28:31 GMT mirah@... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1967 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1967 ... What if we change the definition to a figure with four angles? The definition of, say, schizophrenia, has changed a zillion times over, including with Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:27:56 GMT mirah@... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1966 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1966 ... Sorry, who is Ellis? On this list? ... Are psychiatrists imprisoned and drugged on account of those labels? Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:49:55 GMT michel.latulippe http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1965 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1965 ... Mira, I read all the archived messages pointed out to me. There are things relevant to understanding and some connected to perception. For instance, the Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:48:00 GMT D Waters http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1964 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1964 What about Ellis' point that we use labels to describe psychiatrists behaviors, and why are those lablels considered ok but not terms to describe "mental Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:54:52 GMT mirah@... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1963 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1963 ... Thank goodness. I was beginning to show symptoms of encephalitis aggrandisementitis. ;) I'd like to ask you though, in future, to remove superfluous quotes Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:15:15 GMT michel.latulippe http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1962 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1962 ... Mira they are many points in your message. I disagree with almost all of them though I comment here only one of them i.e. the reality of mental Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:48:04 GMT mirah@... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1961 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1961 Just heard on our news: A 35-yr-old man has been acquitted of attempting manslaughter by throwing the electrical switches in a hospital cellar, causing Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:46:17 GMT mirah@... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1960 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1960 ... Ooooo, I doooo love compliments. Many thanks, Tim. ... I chair an organization in the Netherlands called MeTZelf which has a website. Not all the writings Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:37:46 GMT Tim Hopkins http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1959 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1959 Mira, Your posts are always refreshingly straight forward, and to be equally blunt, employ a BS detector that cuts through the fog, distinquishing between Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:08:33 GMT mirah@... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1958 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1958 ... In my opinion the real issue is not the value vs risk of a particular medical service (vaccination) but the political structure which determines how these Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:06:27 GMT Alan Forrester http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1957 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1957 ... Autism is diagnosed by looking at symptoms and there are no signs and so no objective test for it. As such the claim that flu vaccine causes autism is not Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:14:39 GMT mirah@... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1956 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1956 Has anyone here read this? It's pretty thick. I'm still on the first chapter.//// Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:13:30 GMT matt at anarchyjapan http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1955 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1955 I'd be curious to hear what people on this forum think about vaccines. In particular, the flu vaccine. Are the claims that some vaccines might cause autism