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      <title>Re: Between evil and immorality</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:53:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Luká Novák</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Lack of desirable perfection (in a subject). ... Lack of conformity (of an action) to the moral law. ... Yes, because conformity to the moral law is a </description>
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      <title>Between evil and immorality</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:40:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Iya Osoronga</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thomism/message/2818</link>
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      <description>What is evil? What is immorality? And is any immorality always evil according to STA? Tx Damola Luk?? Nov?k &lt;lukas.novak@...&gt; wrote: ... This does not</description>
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      <title>Re: Unmoved mover, final and/or effective cause? (one or many? (Re: </title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:37:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Anthony Crifasi</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thomism/message/2817</link>
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      <description>... For Aristotle, final causality is exhibited by EVERY natural body, not just by ones that exhibit voluntary movement. Even if we leave aside the movements</description>
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      <title>Unmoved mover, final and/or effective cause? (one or many? (Re: Aris</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:18:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>jamesmiguez</dc:creator>
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      <description>... moved ... is, ... could ... then ... must ... intelligible ... cause ... thesis ... Aquinas ... This does not answer the question.  Nor do you.  What is</description>
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      <title>Re: Unmoved mover, final and/or effective cause? (one or many? (Re: </title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 05:31:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Anthony Crifasi</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thomism/message/2815</link>
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      <description>... I am sorry that you missed the answer contained in the quote. Here is the specific part containing the answer, isolated from all the ... So unless you</description>
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      <title>Unmoved mover, final and/or effective cause? (one or many? (Re: Aris</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 05:19:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>jamesmiguez</dc:creator>
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      <description>... &quot;And ... &quot;divine ... by ... The discussion is about Aristotle in his own time and place -- that is, ancient pagan Greece, not about Aquinas, a medieval</description>
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      <title>Avicenna, Aquinas and Peace Studies</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:32:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>CHUA Soo Meng Jude (PLS)</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thomism/message/2813</link>
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      <description>Dear All, I am interested in exploring the following line of thought and would welcome any kind of comment. Intimations of an Islamic Theology of Peace and</description>
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      <title>Re: Unmoved mover, final and/or effective cause? (one or many? (Re: </title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:51:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Anthony Crifasi</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thomism/message/2812</link>
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      <description>... James, Aquinas&#39; own words in his commentary on the above passage: &quot;...since it has been shown that the first mover is unmoved, it must cause motion in the</description>
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      <title>Unmoved mover, one or many? (Re: Aristotle the &quot;pagan&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:49:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>jamesmiguez</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Creation ex nihilo certainly implies a beginning. ... The secondary unmoved movers are not produced by the first.  In the historical context, that is the</description>
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      <title>Unmoved mover, one or many? (Re: Aristotle the &quot;pagan&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:01:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>jamesmiguez</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thomism/message/2810</link>
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      <description>... Since when is Aquinas an authority on cosmology?  Or historical studies for that matter?  Thomism doesn&#39;t claim Aquinas&#39; cosmology, nor Aristotle&#39;s</description>
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      <title>Unmoved mover, final and/or effective cause? (one or many? (Re: Aris</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:50:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>jamesmiguez</dc:creator>
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      <description>... then ... object ... You have not answered the question, unless you posit that the &quot;divine body&quot; of heaven, or sphere, has a soul that is intelligent and</description>
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      <title>Re: Unmoved mover, one or many? (Re: Aristotle the &quot;pagan&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:13:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Luká Novák</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thomism/message/2808</link>
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      <description>... You made just one inference in the quoted 2 lines, and it is the validity of this I deny. Namely: &quot;created&quot; does not imply &quot;has beginning&quot;. ... Well: at</description>
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      <title>Re: Unmoved mover, one or many? (Re: Aristotle the &quot;pagan&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:29:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Luká Novák</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Aquinas sees no problem in angels causing bodily motion - not just of the spheres, but generally. See ST I, q. 52 for explanation. Lukas</description>
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      <title>Re: Unmoved mover, one or many? (Re: Aristotle the &quot;pagan&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:21:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Anthony Crifasi</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Aristotle says precisely how at Met. 1072a25 - as a final cause: &quot;And this is the way in which the object of desire or the intelligible object moves,</description>
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      <title>Unmoved mover, one or many? (Re: Aristotle the &quot;pagan&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:17:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>jamesmiguez</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thomism/message/2805</link>
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      <description>... no ... is, ... unmoved ... the ... cause. ... space ... objects ... 1073b1) ... Well apparently this would make them separated substances, but I do not see</description>
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