http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/ T'ien T'ai & The Lotus Sutra Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:41:30 GMT commonmortal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3756 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3756 Hello Trock: to your first comment: it is not practice (of faith), but the practice (of chanting) the Daimoku out of faith. This is comparable to a baby Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:31:06 GMT Franko http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3755 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3755 Peter, I posted to Robin Beck on your site back in Sept 2009 re a book called T'ien-T'ai Buddhism and Early Madhyamika by NG Yu-Kwan that I was reading at the Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:13:18 GMT dieukinh http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3754 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3754 Hi Will: With cognitive development, one learns to deal with the world around one, with all of its conflicts between self-interest, competing interests and Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:26:16 GMT trockestrella http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3753 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3753 In your answer to the first question: First you said understanding grows as a result of faith. Then you said assiduous practice will ensure wisdom's growth, Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:08:08 GMT commonmortal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3752 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3752 Hello Trock: regarding your first question. it is the understanding that grows as a result of faith. for example, we have not seen a baby turning into an adult Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:26:43 GMT trockestrella http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3751 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3751 Two questions: Are you saying that your views regarding Buddhism and any difference you perceive between Nichirenism and Tientai are only based on your faith Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:51:51 GMT commonmortal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3750 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3750 Hello Peter: To think that Nichiren buddhism sprung from Tientai, is certainly a misunderstanding. There is a part of Nichiren buddhism that aligns itself to Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:47:29 GMT will.housley http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3749 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3749 I am enjoying the lively conversation which seems to fortunately be shedding more light than heat, which is not always the case when discussing Nichiren Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:46:21 GMT dieukinh http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3748 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3748 Hi Mark: Thank you - your lengthy cut and paste supports my last post exactly. As the seventeenth chapter says, without faith (the acceptance of a power beyond Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:20:38 GMT Nancy Rogow http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3747 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3747 Dear Peter: You write: "To suggest that only faith is necessary without introspection is to suggest that one need not use one's own mind to verify what is true Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:27:55 GMT dieukinh http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3746 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3746 Hello CM & Mark: I believe you may be making a false distinction here between what you are contrasting as 'Kanjin' and 'Kanjin Honzon'. Chih-I explains many Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:32:16 GMT commonmortal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3745 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3745 Dear All, Lotus Sutra chapter 11 states: "If one were to embrace this storehouse of 84,000 doctrines, the 12 divisions of the sutras, and expound it to others, Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:04:56 GMT Nancy Rogow http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3744 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3744 Dear Peter: Your exposition of the teachings of Tientai, the votary of the Lotus Sutra in Zoho [Middle Day] are most insightful. However I am compelled to Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:44:34 GMT Nancy Rogow http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3743 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3743 Dear all: This is a complex subject and I will try and shed some light into the differences of Nichiren Daishonin's teachings and Tientai Chi-i's. Peter can Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:14:57 GMT commonmortal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3742 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tientai/message/3742 Hello Peter Kanjin Honzon is a method of seeing the buddha in oneself by way of a religious device. The Lifespan chapter states: "I leave this beneficial