http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/ treeless saddle discussion Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:38:56 GMT Julie http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30878 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30878 Well, the Saddleright pad isn't made for treeless saddles, so it provides no spine clearance. The Grandeur Is designed for treeless, so it seems to me that it Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:01:44 GMT Pam Freeman http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30877 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30877 Julie- I have both Equipedic and Skito pads and do not notice any notable difference in their "bounce".  My guess, having observed Poppy, is that she was not Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:47:51 GMT mcktx2028 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30876 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30876 Nope! LOL the pad will be in TX! Thanks for your input and sharing your experience with the pads. I am purchasing a used London also and will look forward to Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:36:29 GMT Ivydell http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30875 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30875 I rode Poppy on my Barefoot Cheyenne tonight, and switched from the Skito pad to the Equipedic. I had an unusually bouncy ride! Is this to be expected, or Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:43:07 GMT Pamela Hansen http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30874 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30874 So I have the Demo and took the pommel out to see how it fits to her back. This is the standard pommel and they also have an xwide one. I will be getting the Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:51:20 GMT Janet Aveni http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30873 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30873 Hi Carol, I have been using a SaddleRight pad with my Ansur for several years. I also used the Western version with my Bob MArshall. I had wonderful sweat Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:59:26 GMT Pam Hansen http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30872 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30872 I just got back from riding for 2.5 hours in the BF Atlanta. It takes awhile to feel comfortable but I had no Sciatica during or now. My knees were hurting Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:13:35 GMT Rachel Terranella http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30871 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30871 I agree Karen that was my point in other words. ... -- Rachel www.AC4H.com Proverbs 12:10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:57:09 GMT Karen Thomas http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30870 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30870 ... Not really. Both the shape of the horse AND the cut of the saddle are factors in how it feels. On some of the narrower horses, you may be able to ride Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:44:59 GMT IAPonyGirl@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30869 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30869 Rachel, I am not confused on what a twist is.? I think the feel of a twist is created differently with treeless saddles compared to treed saddles.? What I said Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:17:18 GMT IAPonyGirl@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30868 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30868 My experience?is completely opposite.? I felt a complete lack of twist/support in the Sensation on my uber wide mare but with the BF's it is much much better.? Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:09:57 GMT Abby Peterson http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30867 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30867 Right, and to some people it's the narrowest-feeling treeless! The variation in preferences is impressive. People always ask me what I ride in and I have to Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:37:24 GMT IAPonyGirl@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30866 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30866 Abby, Interesting comment about the feel of a FF because I felt the same way, like it felt surprisingly wide when I was expecting it to feel narrow and this Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:42:01 GMT Rachel Terranella http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30865 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30865 This is true but the twist is caused by the shape of the horse not the saddle in the Barefoot type saddles which is why the Sensation works because it has a Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:07:21 GMT karen http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30864 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/message/30864 ... This is so true! When I had my appaloosa mare, I rode her in a barefoot tahoe and that saddle was perfect on her. It fit her and me just right. It didn't