http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/ TubeGroup Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:03:54 GMT Tony Chung http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8712 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8712 ... I think we are weaving a bit off-topic, but discussion about Oyster probably isn't a problem. As for the stuff you posted... I think that a lot of people Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:43:19 GMT Simon Smiler http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8711 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8711 Tony, I've snipped a few points from your message, and (below) am adding some text from my website about how the system is slowly being introduced nationally, Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:09:07 GMT David Orchard http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8710 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8710 I'm not competent to discuss the technical aspects, but I'm fairly well aware of the "civil liberties" ones ! The "wristwatch" idea that Tony mentioned sounds Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:39:23 GMT Tony Chung http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8709 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8709 ... Oyster readers are literally just the black plastic things on top of the gates. Replacing them with ITSO compliant readers is going to be a matter of, at Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:39:08 GMT Trevor Wright http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8708 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8708 "However, if Gunnersbury and Kew Gardens are District rather than LOROL managed I would suspect, therefore, that the £30 one month non-commercial permit Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:11:29 GMT Simon Smiler http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8707 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8707 Tony, The article does not say and I don't know. I think that originally it was planned for before the end of 2012, but time now is so short that unless the Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:27:14 GMT Peter Mugridge http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8706 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8706 The letterhead is the LOROL one with the Finchley Road offices address. It apologises for someone being hassled at Kensal Rise and goes on to say: "Station Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:19:58 GMT Tom Beevers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8705 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8705 I believe Oyster has to be replaced at some point as it isn't ITSO compliant. For example, the new ENCC cards issued to OAPs for free bus travel are all Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:16:13 GMT Peter Mugridge http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8704 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8704 I wonder how this would cope with someone pacing up and down while waiting for someone to turn up and in the course of that pacing they repeatedly pass in and Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:01:28 GMT Tony Chung http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8703 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8703 What kind of time-frame? A lot of money has been invested in Oyster and the only change I can forsee is an adaption to allow National Rail RFID to somehow be Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:45:38 GMT Peter Mugridge http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8702 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8702 Funnily enough I was on the DLR today to collect my first B2007 haulages ( bagged 18 of them! ) and I actually asked one of the train crew this without Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:40:38 GMT Simon Smiler http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8701 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8701 Hello everyone Long term plans are being drawn up to replace the Oystercard. I've wondered about this for many years, as infact it represents how I thought Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:37:07 GMT Peter Mugridge http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8700 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8700 The only trouble is that DLR units have glass which block GPS signals... For the record, the only trains on which I cannot get a GPS signal at all are the Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:32:56 GMT Jason Cross http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8699 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8699 My blackberry refreshes the speed roughly twice in every second. What you see on the display though is probably about 2 seconds behind real time. You can see Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:21:00 GMT Tony Chung http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8698 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubegroup/message/8698 ... These devices tent to work well for average speeds (over say 10 seconds), but don't work so well in higher resolution. So I don't know how well it will