http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/ Welcome to the Alternate Tunings Mailing List. Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:55:14 GMT hfmlacerda http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86221 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86221 P.S.: Cameron, I just would like to add that I think my points (below) are essentially in agreement with what you have written, even if apparently it seems to Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:46:08 GMT hfmlacerda http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86220 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86220 ... [...] ... Yes, analysis of pitch-class sets is essentially about material classification, identification of derivation procedures on the selected material, Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:16:27 GMT Chris Vaisvil http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86219 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86219 Ok, Here are some markov chain programs http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/mark_text/ Now... these are used to process text documents and have 2 and 3 chain Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:53:16 GMT Kalle http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86218 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86218 ... It depends what you take as chords. If any kind of subset is a chord then any scale, tempered or not, with the same number of notes has the same number of Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:31:46 GMT Cornell III, Howard M http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86217 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86217 Why would every combination require a line of code? That is, what would you do in a line of code for each combination that could not be accomplished by nested Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:52:47 GMT Daniel Forró http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86216 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86216 I know about him, he's on good way... Thanks for the link. Daniel Forro Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:30:23 GMT hstraub64 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86215 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86215 ... David Cope has done exactly that, and indeed with Markov chains - more specific, hidden Markov models. Results (quite impressive) can be heard on Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:08:42 GMT Daniel Forró http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86214 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86214 I don't understand what you mean here. Markov chains were used in music analysis for statistical evaluations of certain elements, parameters of music in Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:34:20 GMT cameron http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86213 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86213 ... "Set theory" isn't really about tone rows. AFAIK it really started with Hanson, which I probably have somewhere come to think of it, and he was dealing Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:09:56 GMT Sarn Ursell http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86212 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86212 Hello tuners! I could assume that one of the good methods of creating "human composed sounding" microtonal music, is with the use of a Markov chain. Let us say Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:04:56 GMT John H. Chalmers http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86211 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86211 Torsten: I don't Howe's article has been published as his web pages says that it was written in 1993 and is undergoing revision. His home page is Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:40:24 GMT Cox Franklin http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86210 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86210 I talked about larger  and asymmetric sets in the end of my note. I understood this to be a question about how to learn to aurally identify different sets, Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:36:41 GMT Herman Miller http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86209 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86209 ... Up to the 7-limit, that sounds right. ... Meantone only tempers out 81/80; the 7-limit version of meantone tempers out 126/125, 225/224, etc. but not Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:20:11 GMT Daniel Forró http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86208 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86208 On 10 Feb 2010, at 12:32 PM, Mike Battaglia wrote: Thanks for the names of jazz musicians, I will check... ... Hm, wikipedia... Written by a certain person Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:32:41 GMT Mike Battaglia http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86207 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/86207 ... Yes, it's more of a newer sound. Not used too much in bebop. ... Aaron Parks, Kurt Rosenwinkel, Brad Mehldau, Jim Black, Aisha Duo, Ralph Alessi, etc. That