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      <title>Certified Scrum Product Owner Training - December 8th - 9th</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:21:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>SolutionsIQ Agile Training</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;http://www.solutionsiq.com&gt;         &lt;http://www.solutionsiq.com&gt; Certified   Scrum Product Owner Training Scrum increases the emphasis on assessing and</description>
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      <title>Re: Agile networking lunch on Friday</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:16:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Merlyn Albery-Speyer</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xpportland/message/1608</link>
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      <description>I may come along.</description>
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      <title>Agile networking lunch on Friday</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:44:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kimberly Wallmark</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xpportland/message/1607</link>
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      <description>Time for the monthly Agile lunch!  Same time, same place: McMenamins on NE 15th and Broadway, from 1 until whenever people leave.  Newbies and the curious are</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:17:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mark Knell</dc:creator>
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      <description>&quot;Can you provide some support or rational for your assertion that craft was some back-woods cabala that resisted change...&quot; Yep. I don&#39;t know where you came up</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:22:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Steve Willoughby</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xpportland/message/1605</link>
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      <description>On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10:44PM -0700, Mark Knell wrote: [quoting Ward Cunningham] ... I love that (and the modified form).  Thanks for that, Ward. :) ... </description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:15:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ward Cunningham</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xpportland/message/1604</link>
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      <description>Friends -- please don&#39;t forget that all these terms are metaphors. No one is suggesting developers weave baskets or drive trains. I&#39;ve never found the</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:10:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mark Knell</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xpportland/message/1603</link>
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      <description>&quot;our chosen medium has uniquely awesome powers that we have yet to fully exploit&quot; Very well put.  This touches another of my objections to Software as Craft:</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:09:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Travis Brooks</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:01:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>marty.nelson</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xpportland/message/1601</link>
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      <description>Mark - Can you provide some support or rational for your assertion that craft was some back-woods cabala that resisted change and stood in the way of man&#39;s</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mark Knell</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xpportland/message/1600</link>
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      <description>John, [If this starts to feel like a flame war, call me on it.  I intend it as honest disagreement, sprinkled with sarcasm of course, but no animosity</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:52:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ward Cunningham</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xpportland/message/1599</link>
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      <description>Friends -- please don&#39;t forget that all these terms are metaphors. No one is suggesting developers weave baskets or drive trains. I&#39;ve never found the</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:59:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mike Leach</dc:creator>
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      <description>I think there&#39;s some confusion around &#39;craft&#39; as process and &#39;arts and crafts&#39; as the output of a process. The craftsman model simply recognized that there are</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:21:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>John Watson</dc:creator>
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      <description>Since when are band-aids &quot;premium&quot; products?  You can get them at any grocery store!  Interestingly, quite a bit of the medicine that I use these days was</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:54:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mark Knell</dc:creator>
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      <description>John, &quot;Rigorous standards of correctness are not at all at odds with a craft-oriented style of software development.&quot; Hm. Maybe the usage of the term &quot;craft&quot;</description>
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      <title>Re: A couple of open questions</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:27:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Diana Larsen</dc:creator>
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      <description>Dibs on tweeting it! (with appropriate attribution of course.) Diana *** Diana Larsen http://www.futureworksconsulting.com &quot;Leading Agile Retrospectives&quot;</description>
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