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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:07:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Lennart Regebro</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184093</link>
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      <description>... As I understand it, ZTK is not meant to build applications on. It&#39;s meant to build application servers on. ZTK is supposed to be tha base on which we build</description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:42:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Chris McDonough</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184092</link>
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      <description>... Maybe not surprisingly I have the opposite feeling.  To me, it&#39;s already a pretty large set of &quot;definite&quot; packages (~60), and a definitely large set of </description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:55:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Stephan Richter</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184091</link>
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      <description>... To be honest, I am very disappointed by this list. It is totally meaningless to me since it does not represent any list with which I can build even a </description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ Correctly handle unauthorize</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:04:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Tres Seaver</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184090</link>
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      <description>... Hash: SHA1 ... What is the motivation here?  Zope2 applications have hooked Unauthorized exceptions *forever*: - You can see them in the error_log (if you</description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:32:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Tres Seaver</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184089</link>
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      <description>... Hash: SHA1 ... Thanks for putting the list together!  A couple of observations: - - Jim asked us to remove &#39;zodbcode&#39; and dependencies (&#39;zope.app.module&#39;, </description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] [Distutils] Where is the setuptools source repository</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:32:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Christian Theune</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184088</link>
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      <description>... Nope, I didn&#39;t care to cut a release right away. If you can&#39;t/don&#39;t want to use the trunk I&#39;d be happy to cut one. Christian -- Christian Theune ·</description>
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      <title>[Zope-dev] List of packages in ZTK</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:34:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Christian Theune</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184087</link>
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      <description>Hi, I took the Zope 3.4 KGS, removed the obvious packages that do not belong to the ZTK out of the list and created a home for the master list that defines</description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] [Distutils] Where is the setuptools source repository</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:36:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Christian Theune</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184086</link>
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      <description>Hi, ... It was shallow after understanding it ... ;) The test runner already tried to avoid those directories, except there wasn&#39;t a test for this and</description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] A suggestion for changing exception handler when	load</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:45:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Chris McDonough</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184085</link>
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      <description>... Actually they&#39;ve raised the limit to 3000 files now, which is more realistic (previously it was impossible to deploy even minimal apps without zipping </description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] A suggestion for changing exception handler when load</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:30:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Tres Seaver</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184084</link>
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      <description>... Hash: SHA1 ... I think the suggestion to remap the NotImplementedError to an Import error is sensible (in that __bootstrap__ method). ... The only way to</description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] A suggestion for changing exception handler when load</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:21:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Tim Hoffman</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184083</link>
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      <description>Hi Tobias Cool Just something to note google recently upped the file limit to 3000 so don&#39;t be too agressive generating those zips ;-) T ... </description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] A suggestion for changing exception handler when load</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:09:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Tobias Rodäbel</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184082</link>
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      <description>... Great idea to examine EGG-INFO/SOURCES.txt, Jim! I just added this to my recipe (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/rod.recipe.appengine) and got rid of the</description>
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      <title>[Formulator] Anyone fixed it for Zope 2.10/2.11?</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:57:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Andreas Jung</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184081</link>
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      <description>We have a project where we are using Formulator under CMF 1.X + Zope 2.8. Unfortunately Formulator seems to horribly broken Zope 2.11. Has anyone worked on</description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] A suggestion for changing exception handler when load</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:34:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jim Fulton</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184080</link>
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      <description>... I&#39;m sure there&#39;s a way to do it.  It will just take some digging. Maybe there&#39;s a way to tell setuptools not to do it or maybe there&#39;s enough meta data</description>
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      <title>Re: [Zope-dev] A suggestion for changing exception handler when load</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:30:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Tim Hoffman</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/184079</link>
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      <description>Hi Jim That is what I am doing now, the problem I see though is when someone upates (via buildout etc.... a)  module they need to remember to remove the</description>
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